For Witcher 3, a Temerian is tied up to suffer an attack from drowners (aquatic monsters) as mob justice. However, freeing him lets him slaughter and pillage a camp of refugees.
In Xenooblade Chronicles X, humans from a spaceship must ally with aliens on a new planet. One alien species, the Zaruboggan, can consume poisons and metabolize them. One of the numerous side quests is about a human who exploits a zaruboggan by taking credit for the environmental detoxification and giving nothing to them.
When informed, they don't feel cheated, but grateful for the source of food.
In a binary choice, you either force the human to share the payments from now on or turn them in for the crime of stealing.
You get a small reward for forcing a renegotiation, but you get nothing for turning them in.
Huh, I figured getting on that bus in Detroit Become Human was a trap, obviously they were going to closely inspect people to avoid letting androids out of the city right? Apparently not… I managed to survive the boat crossing though!
No Dragon age Origins? Siding with the terrible Prince behlen will result in him ushering in a new golden age. Siding with the honest lord harrowmont will result in him runnign the kingdom itno the ground.
KOTOR. One side mission on Dantooine is to find a widow's lost/"stolen" droid. Reuniting the widow and the droid are actually the bad ending for this side mission, as she's gone a little crazy in her grief and is being really weird with the droid. when you find the droid you're given three different options: insist on honesty about either reuniting them or telling her the truth- that the droid ran away for her mental health, and the droid attacks- an easy, pointless, easily avoidable fight. You can technically try to tell her the truth without reuniting them, but either it requires a ridiculously high persuasion or just goes badly. The best and simplest way to resolve this one is the dishonest route- claiming the droid has been destroyed. Also, Mass Effect is probably a treasure trove of entries for a list like this.
You are better off shooting pretty much everyone you come across in the wild in RDR2 too. There's a couple guys by a tent that aren't jerks… but they are side quest/charachters…. almost all of them are deeply offended by your very existence happening to take place within their field of vision and start shooting. Some of them try ro rob you. Ironically the escaped prisoners are the only guys you can trust 😂.
Don't they realize if nobody ever trusts anyone… you can't ever trust anyone? Don't start no shiz won't be no shiz? Its a feedback loop. 😂
The thing in Witcher is not that jarl needs to feel despair but you because you need to think that you killed the baby so the hum would latch onto you.
You missed the best one .. In Fable 2 if you dont hand over Revears dark seal to the young girl in front of the shadows its ages you like 100 years for doing the good choice, so your ugly for the rest of the game
Skyrim does the "help me" ambush too. Telrav, on the road east of Ivarstead, claims to be a merchant who was attacked and wants to be escorted back to his camp. Interestingly, his name is kind of a tell. It's "varlet" spelled backward. For that matter, Fallout 4 does it twice. The junkie outside the hardware store, and at the start of the Nuka World questline.
For that call of duty Black ops thing. I think it kind of misses the point to refer to either side as the good guys or the bad guys.
The whole point of that set of endings seems to me like it's trying to emphasize that in war in general, but specifically in the Cold War. In particular there was no good guys. There were no bad guys, there were just guys.
If we really look at the Cold War from a dispassionate objective view without giving favor or disfavor to either side because of where we were born, it becomes clear that it's a contest between two very big, very powerful, very wealthy bullies over who gets to bully the rest of the world for the next round of the great game of misery and suffering.
Just look at the phrase that began meaning one thing and morphed into something else. Third, world country did not originally mean impoverished undeveloped country full of backward ignorant puttses. It referred to countries that were not allowed with capitalist or communist that wanted nothing to do with the Cold War.
Because most of those countries that chose to opt out of the false dichotomy were sanctioned and punished and persecuted by both sides. They ended up becoming impoverished or staying in poverty if they already were.
Long since the end of the Cold War, people still use the phrase the third world country to refer to impoverished Nations that are hopeless, landscapes of misery and despair and destitution. That's not the ultimate indictment of human nature. It's at least somewhere in the top 15 or top 10 list of indictments.
early on in the game, once you enter the main city walls, you come across a little girl asking for you to get "their cat" out of a tree. you, being an upstanding, honest ATOM agent, agree to retrieve the cat. then it's revealed that lo and behold – the cat's going to be turned into a meat soup as the little girl runs back to their mother, yelling they'll "finally get to eat meat again".
another section from the same game is the final part of upgrading the power armour, where you have to do a bunch of trials in it and make it to the other side, getting the best version of the armour. in the beginning, you come across an injured dude who was attacked by essentially giant spiders, and is dying of poison / injuries. helping him up and giving him some meds, he thanks you and leaves – only to come back later with a group of 10-12 other dudes to mug you. sure, you can talk them down, but that requires a skillcheck you might not have.
The Mass effect example is dumb. You are NOT doing "the right thing". Tali asks, no, BEGS you to not tell them about the evidence found because it would forever destroy her father's name and reputation. Making it public serves nobody, and hurts her deeply.
Telling the truth does not equal doing the right thing. Esspecially in the Mass Effect games.
Recently going through Phantom Liberty and the one that comes to mind is Aaron's questline. I tired to "free" him from his debt to the Animals which ended with him flatlined. Don't expect the other route to be any more uplifting but I'll see on my next playthrough
Bad guys?! Lol not from Soviet born's perspective. I say Europe guys are bad. Iconoclast is great. You end up having a deity protecting your part of space and regular people love you.😊
Original Life is Strange Spoiler . . . . . In the original Life is Strange you are bullied by another student multiple times and often have to decide between being the greater person or getting back at her the same way, as petty as it may be.
But ultimately being the better person leads to the worse ending when you become friends with her and that kills her close before the climax. If you are still enemies she ignores your warnings (which are completely wrong at this point because you still suspect the wrong person to be the killer) and ignoring your wrong warning saves her life (until you ultimately sacrifice everyone in town in the final chapter of course)
For Witcher 3, a Temerian is tied up to suffer an attack from drowners (aquatic monsters) as mob justice. However, freeing him lets him slaughter and pillage a camp of refugees.
In Xenooblade Chronicles X, humans from a spaceship must ally with aliens on a new planet. One alien species, the Zaruboggan, can consume poisons and metabolize them. One of the numerous side quests is about a human who exploits a zaruboggan by taking credit for the environmental detoxification and giving nothing to them.
When informed, they don't feel cheated, but grateful for the source of food.
In a binary choice, you either force the human to share the payments from now on or turn them in for the crime of stealing.
You get a small reward for forcing a renegotiation, but you get nothing for turning them in.
Huh, I figured getting on that bus in Detroit Become Human was a trap, obviously they were going to closely inspect people to avoid letting androids out of the city right? Apparently not… I managed to survive the boat crossing though!
love this in games when you dont know what right choise or help someone who badass or trick you 😆much more interesting and realistic/
No Dragon age Origins? Siding with the terrible Prince behlen will result in him ushering in a new golden age. Siding with the honest lord harrowmont will result in him runnign the kingdom itno the ground.
KOTOR. One side mission on Dantooine is to find a widow's lost/"stolen" droid. Reuniting the widow and the droid are actually the bad ending for this side mission, as she's gone a little crazy in her grief and is being really weird with the droid. when you find the droid you're given three different options: insist on honesty about either reuniting them or telling her the truth- that the droid ran away for her mental health, and the droid attacks- an easy, pointless, easily avoidable fight. You can technically try to tell her the truth without reuniting them, but either it requires a ridiculously high persuasion or just goes badly. The best and simplest way to resolve this one is the dishonest route- claiming the droid has been destroyed. Also, Mass Effect is probably a treasure trove of entries for a list like this.
You are better off shooting pretty much everyone you come across in the wild in RDR2 too.
There's a couple guys by a tent that aren't jerks… but they are side quest/charachters…. almost all of them are deeply offended by your very existence happening to take place within their field of vision and start shooting.
Some of them try ro rob you.
Ironically the escaped prisoners are the only guys you can trust 😂.
Don't they realize if nobody ever trusts anyone… you can't ever trust anyone?
Don't start no shiz won't be no shiz?
Its a feedback loop.
😂
I mean it is called Lies of P xD
Real life should be 1
The thing in Witcher is not that jarl needs to feel despair but you because you need to think that you killed the baby so the hum would latch onto you.
@32:40 Hey it's Tony Jay
19:10 The Mass Effect 2 choice to tattle on Tali's dad is not the paragon choice. It's in the renegade dialogue position.
You missed the best one .. In Fable 2 if you dont hand over Revears dark seal to the young girl in front of the shadows its ages you like 100 years for doing the good choice, so your ugly for the rest of the game
Skyrim does the "help me" ambush too. Telrav, on the road east of Ivarstead, claims to be a merchant who was attacked and wants to be escorted back to his camp. Interestingly, his name is kind of a tell. It's "varlet" spelled backward. For that matter, Fallout 4 does it twice. The junkie outside the hardware store, and at the start of the Nuka World questline.
For that call of duty Black ops thing. I think it kind of misses the point to refer to either side as the good guys or the bad guys.
The whole point of that set of endings seems to me like it's trying to emphasize that in war in general, but specifically in the Cold War. In particular there was no good guys. There were no bad guys, there were just guys.
If we really look at the Cold War from a dispassionate objective view without giving favor or disfavor to either side because of where we were born, it becomes clear that it's a contest between two very big, very powerful, very wealthy bullies over who gets to bully the rest of the world for the next round of the great game of misery and suffering.
Just look at the phrase that began meaning one thing and morphed into something else. Third, world country did not originally mean impoverished undeveloped country full of backward ignorant puttses. It referred to countries that were not allowed with capitalist or communist that wanted nothing to do with the Cold War.
Because most of those countries that chose to opt out of the false dichotomy were sanctioned and punished and persecuted by both sides. They ended up becoming impoverished or staying in poverty if they already were.
Long since the end of the Cold War, people still use the phrase the third world country to refer to impoverished Nations that are hopeless, landscapes of misery and despair and destitution. That's not the ultimate indictment of human nature. It's at least somewhere in the top 15 or top 10 list of indictments.
It seems i forgot cold war is bo5
Not convinced the dude talking even plays video games
How a fromsoft game didn't make the list is beyond me
How was dishonored the "right thing"?
ATOM RPG: Trudograd.
early on in the game, once you enter the main city walls, you come across a little girl asking for you to get "their cat" out of a tree. you, being an upstanding, honest ATOM agent, agree to retrieve the cat. then it's revealed that lo and behold – the cat's going to be turned into a meat soup as the little girl runs back to their mother, yelling they'll "finally get to eat meat again".
another section from the same game is the final part of upgrading the power armour, where you have to do a bunch of trials in it and make it to the other side, getting the best version of the armour. in the beginning, you come across an injured dude who was attacked by essentially giant spiders, and is dying of poison / injuries. helping him up and giving him some meds, he thanks you and leaves – only to come back later with a group of 10-12 other dudes to mug you. sure, you can talk them down, but that requires a skillcheck you might not have.
The Mass effect example is dumb. You are NOT doing "the right thing". Tali asks, no, BEGS you to not tell them about the evidence found because it would forever destroy her father's name and reputation. Making it public serves nobody, and hurts her deeply.
Telling the truth does not equal doing the right thing. Esspecially in the Mass Effect games.
Awesome list
Recently going through Phantom Liberty and the one that comes to mind is Aaron's questline. I tired to "free" him from his debt to the Animals which ended with him flatlined. Don't expect the other route to be any more uplifting but I'll see on my next playthrough
Bad guys?! Lol not from Soviet born's perspective. I say Europe guys are bad.
Iconoclast is great. You end up having a deity protecting your part of space and regular people love you.😊
Original Life is Strange Spoiler
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In the original Life is Strange you are bullied by another student multiple times and often have to decide between being the greater person or getting back at her the same way, as petty as it may be.
But ultimately being the better person leads to the worse ending when you become friends with her and that kills her close before the climax. If you are still enemies she ignores your warnings (which are completely wrong at this point because you still suspect the wrong person to be the killer) and ignoring your wrong warning saves her life (until you ultimately sacrifice everyone in town in the final chapter of course)
An idea for a future list " X number of games where the scripted dialog/response isn't anywhere near what a normal person would do/say"
Hollow Knight: Rescuing Zote.
Dishonored would be fun if it didn’t punish you for using its toys