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1. Administration isn't reliable for any metric in any area of government 2. Same as other posters – slow/low hiring, low annual increases and flat or reduced budgets. 3. Job hugging
I have been saying this for years… Here's a couple of quotes from HBO series Chernobyl.
What is the cost of lies? It's not that we'll mistake them for the truth. The real danger is that if we hear enough lies, then we no longer recognize the truth at all"
"Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later, that debt is paid"
My company has hired 100 students per year for the last 10 years, even through Covid. This year due to the unstable government direction we are only hiring 20 students
What you mentioned with traditional W2 work and 1099s. I have been in the roofing industry for 20 years and the only W2s are the couple of people working in the office that do quickbooks, scheduling/ordering, and answer the phone – everyone else is a 1099. When you have slowdowns, nobody becomes "unemployed," there's just less work and thus your income drops because youre paid per project. From the subcontractors to the salesmen we all have our own LLCs or S-corps for tax purposes, so we are always "employed" by ourselves – whether we do 1 job in a month or 30. And I'm sure most 1099 contract work from the trades to consulting to gig work is similar.
Honestly it's likely just like the poverty line calculations. It was based on a formula that hasn't been revisited in decades. The economy is so different that the numbers said formula provides has no basis in reality anymore. (e.g. food and energy costs not being as historically small vs total take home pay). For this? I am betting its based on the W2 payroll filings that is used to inform the baseline to try and infer non-'regular' employment. (independent, gig, temp) Now instead of most employment being through W2s… it's based on things aren't regular employment. Now let's get into the real scandal…. the underemployment rate. ^.~
First of all, that's a very low number compared to what it should be. Second of all, these numbers are inflated, and have been for quite some time. The downward revisions are quietly announced and forgotten after the big pop of the high numbers.
After covid a lot of jobs were eliminated and never came back. Since then everyone has been losing jobs every week from teachers to software developers. Theres no way these books arent cooked.
For the past like 12 quarters they've reported great job numbers and then revised it way down later. They're just lying so the algobots don't think we're in a recession and then delivering the real number later. They're just lying!
My local hardware store has had a "were hiring" sign on the door for the last 30 years and they literally haven't hired a single new person in that entire time. It's the same people that have been there since the 80s when it opened. So why even put the sign on the door?
Listen, as I’ve transitioned from an intelligence analyst to a data analyst, “boring money man rants about data collection methodologies” is increasingly relevant lol.
I work in construction in Seattle… the market here is kind of slow but people doing work in the very outer suburbs and other states are incredibly busy. We had one of our competitors calling us to try and see if we had anyone they could hire on a temporary basis to fill gaps. Data centers, battery/chip manufacturing plants/etc are booming. But because those are manual labor jobs in red States, they are invisible to a lot of people
It's best when they publsih data that is blatantly misleading to keep their job. It doesn't leave room for cognitive dissonance or friction from sheer disconnection from reality
Economics is the only field I'm aware of, in which we know for a fact a certain group of survey respondents will always lie, having every incentive to do so and absolutely no repercussions when caught. And yet people continue to ask the same questions in the same sort of surveys to that same group, with absolutely no controls in place to account for the known fact the respondents will lie through their teeth, and then people still take their responses at face value.
EDIT: I immediately thought of another one: the reporting of crime statistics. Police agencies also always lie about crime rates and who is committing them. Based on FBI crime statistics, you'd never know the most dangerous places to live are rural areas. And that's because FBI crime statistics are self-reported by only participating police agencies. But based on death certificates listing causes of death as homicide by gunshot, you'd learn otherwise. Need to make sure we present the proper image to the public, after all. Can't have anyone know that rural, white America is the most dangerous place to live in the U.S., the same way we can't have people know the U.S. is being turned into India 2.0.
Here's my fun story: I got hired for a part time job in November that required a background check. You know, the same thing that I've had done probably a dozen times or more across my life and its never taken more than a few days to come back because my record is totally clean… Fast forward FOUR MONTHS and it finally goes through. Why did it take so long? According to a state representative that shall remain anonymous: it was just sitting under a giant pile of papers somewhere in a court. So I got to spend four months living on basically nothing before I could start working my PART TIME JOB. This world is @#$%ed.
i wonder if there is any guarentee those jobs were given to american citizens or, say, people on visas or remote workers that companies dont have to give benefits or a minimum wage salary too
Companies shout their layoffs in favor of AI, but when it flops and they re forced to rehire, they do it as quietly as possible. There are also a ton of shadow employees being deported because they are in the country illegally. These are being replaced with employees that are not only paid more, but in the country legally. These are reported, while the former are not.
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We should look at the quality of these jobs. Cart pushers and waiters aren't exactly sought after
1. Administration isn't reliable for any metric in any area of government 2. Same as other posters – slow/low hiring, low annual increases and flat or reduced budgets. 3. Job hugging
I have been saying this for years… Here's a couple of quotes from HBO series Chernobyl.
What is the cost of lies? It's not that we'll mistake them for the truth. The real danger is that if we hear enough lies, then we no longer recognize the truth at all"
"Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later, that debt is paid"
It’s all bullshit
Fake news from a fake department in a fake regime. Time for regime change -now.
My company has hired 100 students per year for the last 10 years, even through Covid. This year due to the unstable government direction we are only hiring 20 students
The answer is simple: Trump fired the previous head of production of these statistics last summer and planted his own person
It's called lying. They've been doing this for a while.
Never forget how much they blatantly lie…
Fake data by Trump administration. Simple.
What you mentioned with traditional W2 work and 1099s. I have been in the roofing industry for 20 years and the only W2s are the couple of people working in the office that do quickbooks, scheduling/ordering, and answer the phone – everyone else is a 1099. When you have slowdowns, nobody becomes "unemployed," there's just less work and thus your income drops because youre paid per project. From the subcontractors to the salesmen we all have our own LLCs or S-corps for tax purposes, so we are always "employed" by ourselves – whether we do 1 job in a month or 30. And I'm sure most 1099 contract work from the trades to consulting to gig work is similar.
Honestly it's likely just like the poverty line calculations. It was based on a formula that hasn't been revisited in decades. The economy is so different that the numbers said formula provides has no basis in reality anymore. (e.g. food and energy costs not being as historically small vs total take home pay).
For this? I am betting its based on the W2 payroll filings that is used to inform the baseline to try and infer non-'regular' employment. (independent, gig, temp)
Now instead of most employment being through W2s… it's based on things aren't regular employment. Now let's get into the real scandal…. the underemployment rate. ^.~
"adding a job" is the 'scam in itself', it is that simple and we have been snowed for decades
How? Simple- they LIE!
First of all, that's a very low number compared to what it should be. Second of all, these numbers are inflated, and have been for quite some time. The downward revisions are quietly announced and forgotten after the big pop of the high numbers.
After covid a lot of jobs were eliminated and never came back. Since then everyone has been losing jobs every week from teachers to software developers. Theres no way these books arent cooked.
Never believe any large entity they are lying for a reason
This is the definition of psyops.
There hasn't been new jobs for fucking years
There's lots of people moving from company to company doing the same damn job, without adding actual new jobs.
I’m SO Excited to be graduating from University in May! WOW! wow
Added 178K GHOST jobs, not actual jobs. Get real. 😒
the great american pyramid scheme is breaking.
For the past like 12 quarters they've reported great job numbers and then revised it way down later. They're just lying so the algobots don't think we're in a recession and then delivering the real number later. They're just lying!
My local hardware store has had a "were hiring" sign on the door for the last 30 years and they literally haven't hired a single new person in that entire time. It's the same people that have been there since the 80s when it opened. So why even put the sign on the door?
Hey Americans, when are you going to realize you're being CONNED
Listen, as I’ve transitioned from an intelligence analyst to a data analyst, “boring money man rants about data collection methodologies” is increasingly relevant lol.
Fake job posts and those companies doing this need to get dismantled.
Misinterpreting the data does not make it incorrect. If you're that hung up on the number just watch the trends. Don't change the game. 😂
I work in construction in Seattle… the market here is kind of slow but people doing work in the very outer suburbs and other states are incredibly busy. We had one of our competitors calling us to try and see if we had anyone they could hire on a temporary basis to fill gaps. Data centers, battery/chip manufacturing plants/etc are booming. But because those are manual labor jobs in red States, they are invisible to a lot of people
Drive by any construction site or go into any factory. Slammed with h2b workers
It's best when they publsih data that is blatantly misleading to keep their job. It doesn't leave room for cognitive dissonance or friction from sheer disconnection from reality
Economics is the only field I'm aware of, in which we know for a fact a certain group of survey respondents will always lie, having every incentive to do so and absolutely no repercussions when caught. And yet people continue to ask the same questions in the same sort of surveys to that same group, with absolutely no controls in place to account for the known fact the respondents will lie through their teeth, and then people still take their responses at face value.
EDIT: I immediately thought of another one: the reporting of crime statistics. Police agencies also always lie about crime rates and who is committing them. Based on FBI crime statistics, you'd never know the most dangerous places to live are rural areas. And that's because FBI crime statistics are self-reported by only participating police agencies. But based on death certificates listing causes of death as homicide by gunshot, you'd learn otherwise. Need to make sure we present the proper image to the public, after all. Can't have anyone know that rural, white America is the most dangerous place to live in the U.S., the same way we can't have people know the U.S. is being turned into India 2.0.
It's simple:
If Trump said it, it was a lie.
Didn't Trump fired the head of labor statistics because he doesn't liked the number?
I've seen commentary on this issue since about 2022-2023 and yet it still is this way.
If that is a real number, it would be in spite of the federal government's best efforts.
I've always read establishment in the BLS report as grams of white powder consumed during board meetings.
Anyone trust the Trump administration?…
Here's my fun story: I got hired for a part time job in November that required a background check. You know, the same thing that I've had done probably a dozen times or more across my life and its never taken more than a few days to come back because my record is totally clean… Fast forward FOUR MONTHS and it finally goes through. Why did it take so long? According to a state representative that shall remain anonymous: it was just sitting under a giant pile of papers somewhere in a court. So I got to spend four months living on basically nothing before I could start working my PART TIME JOB. This world is @#$%ed.
Forget how many jobs were added, it's actually a measure of how desperate this administration is to change the narrative.
Anyone else sick of being lied to constantly by this administration. I just assume every thing is bullshit
i wonder if there is any guarentee those jobs were given to american citizens or, say, people on visas or remote workers that companies dont have to give benefits or a minimum wage salary too
I know it's small but my job in building wood grinding equipment has been booming after a year long slow down so we've been hiring a lot of welders
Is that 172k more book cookers?
They lied, it's that simple
I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOOD PERSON!! Be a MAN’. Trump is LYING! He lies about everything!
USA needs 200000 new jobs each month. That was Bidens AVERAGE
Companies shout their layoffs in favor of AI, but when it flops and they re forced to rehire, they do it as quietly as possible. There are also a ton of shadow employees being deported because they are in the country illegally. These are being replaced with employees that are not only paid more, but in the country legally. These are reported, while the former are not.